Each podcast will mention a few brief items in the opening minutes then focus on a topic for the bulk of the session. In this episode Michael introduces some new (at the time) music, talks about his daughter moving back to Oneida to teach and discusses the difference between religion and the gospel based on Tim Keller. Then he gets into what to look for in a church if you are on the same post-evangelical journey that he was on. Michael Spencer adored worship, when done correctly, just not worship of the institutions.